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Hermes Workshop Log File
Cydonia on Mars; Simultaneous Time and the Philadelphia Experiment; probabilities & parallel Universes; changing the past and future from the present, using your consciousness and your imagination;
January 4, 2000
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Session Start: Tue Jan 04 16:42:28 2000
[16:42] *** Now talking in #energyworks
[16:42] *** Topic is 'You Create your World -->'
[16:42] <Hermes`> okay
[16:42] <Hermes`> how is everyone
[16:42] <_-> hi Hermes
[16:42] <MagicMan`> all systems go from here :)
[16:42] <_-> its me Ranger
[16:43] *** _- is now known as Ranger_
[16:43] <Hermes`> hi ranger, magic, sor -- who is away.
[16:43] <Hermes`> and gamble
[16:43] <sor--> Hermes`:going good
[16:44] <Hermes`> ah soren has returned
[16:44] <sor--> :)
[16:44] * sor-- has returned. (Dead, 1h 59m 10s)
[16:44] <Hermes`> So any riveting things going on with anyone in the esoteric?
[16:45] <MagicMan`> don't think so
[16:46] <sor--> nothing much
[16:46] <Hermes`> :(
[16:47] * MagicMan` raises his hand
[16:47] <Hermes`> oooh!
[16:47] <Hermes`> a question
[16:47] <Hermes`> go Magicman
[16:48] <MagicMan`> question: A topic not spoken at all here, Cydonia as been a mystery in scientific community ...What are you views on that?
[16:48] <Hermes`> Cydonia?
[16:48] <MagicMan`> (if any eeheh)
[16:49] <MagicMan`> guess none ...
[16:49] <MagicMan`> well let me find a webpage on it and maybe you can remember something
[16:49] <Hermes`> good idea,
[16:51] <MagicMan`> does the word "Mars" ring a bell?
[16:51] <Hermes`> that is a planet
[16:51] <MagicMan`> maybe this can help:
[16:51] <MagicMan`> http://www.cybooks.com/index.htm
[16:52] <MagicMan`> just found that so I don't know if the info. There is reliable
[16:52] <Hermes`> okay so this is about the people that lived on Mars.
[16:53] <MagicMan`> yeah in theory...
[16:53] <Hermes`> from my understanding the Mars colony was set up to help develop human DNA. Of course it was there a very long time and they did not only do this work.
[16:53] <MagicMan`> Alteans or whatever?
[16:53] <Hermes`> yea, those dudes
[16:54] <Hermes`> now, I'm sure they will find signs of life there, once they really start looking, if they have not found it already and are just keeping it secret.
[16:54] <MagicMan`> what about the meaning of the structures found? the face, the city
[16:55] <MagicMan`> I think the face picture is on that webpage
[16:55] <Hermes`> yea that also points to this ancient civilization.
[16:55] <MagicMan`> any purpose for it?
[16:56] <MagicMan`> ...a giant human-like face in the middle of mars ...
[16:57] <Hermes`> well I would say to that... what is the purpose of those faces in the side of Mount Rushmore?
[16:57] <MagicMan`> homage then
[16:57] <Hermes`> exactly
[16:57] <Hermes`> you don't build these large human like things for any other reason.
[16:58] <MagicMan`> I guess my question cleared up then
[16:58] <Hermes`> I suppose it is our natures to want to leave behind these kinds of things as a way to cheat death.
[16:58] <MagicMan`> at least you learned a new word eheheh (cydonia)
[16:59] <Hermes`> I had heard the word but was not sure where it was referring to.
[16:59] <Hermes`> I remember the controversy over that picture when it came back.
[17:00] <Hermes`> on one hand many people wanted to shout that life existed on other worlds and then there was this big opposition against it.
[17:01] <Hermes`> in the end, I suppose people were not ready to give up their singular status yet.
[17:01] <Hermes`> So it was just shoved aside as a big photo glitch.
[17:01] <Hermes`> too bad actually. It would of been nice to see some real scientific data on it.
[17:02] <MagicMan`> yep :|
[17:02] <MagicMan`> some say NASA is covering up information
[17:03] <Hermes`> they may be.
[17:03] <MagicMan`> well just a comment now
[17:04] <Hermes`> sure
[17:04] <MagicMan`> ever heard about the Philadelphia experiment?
[17:04] <Hermes`> yea, and the Montauk project too.
[17:05] <Hermes`> I did not live too far from Montauk.
[17:05] <Hermes`> that island it still locked up tight and the energy coming from it is very strange.
[17:06] <MagicMan`> well the theory that was brought out from that was the "palipestum theory" (not sure if I spelled it correctly). That theory certifies the concept you explain on the webpage of simultaneous time
[17:07] <MagicMan`> that least I think it does :)
[17:08] <Hermes`> I have not read the report to be honest so I could not say.
[17:08] <Hermes`> but it is nice to see that stuff coming out.
[17:09] <MagicMan`> that theory says : " If a paper all written is erased and written over it , you can still see the past writings. Also that also applies to the future writings"
[17:09] <MagicMan`> I don't much about it either...
[17:10] <MagicMan`> that paper thing works for the past... not so sure how it goes for the future...
[17:10] <Hermes`> you mean as far as the report goes?
[17:11] <MagicMan`> now this is isn't from the incidents reports
[17:11] <MagicMan`> this is from investigation on the theory
[17:12] <Hermes`> for the human mind, which has memory of the past, it is far easier to grasp the idea of the past happening now, than the future, which man cannot remember...
[17:13] <Hermes`> however, when you start to put probabilities into the idea of simultaneous time, the future and past become very busy places.
[17:14] <Hermes`> for now, you can see or visit the future, but that future does not necessarily have to be the one you experience.
[17:14] <MagicMan`> yep, when grasping reality creating ...
[17:14] * sor-- raises his hand
[17:15] <Hermes`> go sor
[17:15] <MagicMan`> go for it although I have still one or two lined up
[17:15] <sor--> if there isn't only this universe
[17:15] <sor--> is possible to travel in other universes?
[17:16] <Hermes`> sure, once you are free of the physical moment, all those things become possible. The physical plane is meant to be a moment to moment reality, but other realities are not by nature ordered this way.
[17:17] <sor--> how to go there? To travel in time you explained the technique of the energy bubble and calendar
[17:18] <sor--> but to go there I didn't find nothing in the library:/
[17:18] <MagicMan`> ascension?
[17:18] <Hermes`> in library you mean the Akasahic records?
[17:19] <sor--> no,your library:)
[17:19] <MagicMan`> eheh
[17:19] <Hermes`> oh yes...
[17:19] <sor--> wish I can read the Akasahic:)
[17:19] <Hermes`> hehe
[17:19] <Hermes`> in that technique you go back in time to change an event that happened in your past. You do this in an out of time framework to alter your present conditions in some way.
[17:20] <Hermes`> with that technique, you have to take into account the physical plane's moment-to-moment nature and the fact that you can change probabilities.
[17:21] <Hermes`> you go back in time using your mind and imagination and alter what happened. Then in time (because this is a moment-to-moment reality) your present will change to reflect these changes.
[17:23] <Hermes`> that technique should be in with the Simultaneous time chapter.
[17:23] <Hermes`> I use it often myself to alter things in my life.
[17:24] <Hermes`> for example it is also a great way to help yourself or forgive yourself. You travel back in time to when you needed support or love and give yourself it. In return your future self starts to visit you and do the same.
[17:24] * MagicMan` raises his hand for follow up
[17:24] <sor--> oki,but what I mean,is if is possible to travel to parallel universes
[17:25] <Hermes`> one moment magic man...
[17:25] <MagicMan`> oh sorry
[17:26] <Hermes`> Yes it is possible to travel to other parallel universes. And you do this all the time in dreams. You can also do this a bit more consciously with out of body travel.
[17:27] <Hermes`> did I answer your question sor?
[17:28] <sor--> yap
[17:28] <Hermes`> go ahead magicman, if sor is finished.
[17:28] <sor--> finished for now:)
[17:28] <MagicMan`> you didn't offer a technique for him, but ...
[17:29] <sor--> I think that in oobe u just need to decide where u want to go
[17:29] <MagicMan`> ok I'm gonna go for it
[17:30] <MagicMan`> follow up : do black holes and other space anomalies fit in some kind of "easy to travel" technique (in oobes or else)?
[17:30] <Hermes`> yes in an obe it is easy. You just think yourself there.
[17:30] <Hermes`> in the nonphysical you can move through time and space as easily as you move through a room. It is just another dimension.
[17:32] <Hermes`> in an obe you travel through these things all the time. It is a fast way to get across the galaxy quickly.
[17:33] <MagicMan`> (any of those comments are for the follow up?)
[17:34] <Hermes`> if you read about the Tree of Life in the Library and noticed the reference to the colored tunnels. Well these tunnels are worm holes of a sort. They take you from one place to another.
[17:34] <Hermes`> yea they all are the follow up.
[17:35] <MagicMan`> ???
[17:36] <Hermes`> magic, you wanted to know about black holes
[17:37] <MagicMan`> er...anybody outhere?
[17:37] <Hermes`> did I not understand the question.
[17:38] <MagicMan`> ok kinda like the tree of life Sephira connection tubes?
[17:38] <MagicMan`> er sorry tunnels
[17:38] <MagicMan`> :)
[17:39] <Hermes`> exactly like those tubes.
[17:39] <Hermes`> they are small black holes or worm holes that lead you to these places.
[17:39] <Hermes`> otherwise it would take a long time to get there.
[17:40] <MagicMan`> ehehe
[17:41] <MagicMan`> guess I answered my own question back there
[17:41] <Hermes`> because in the nonphysical there are additional dimensions, traveling through these kinds of things are possible. It also demonstrates that things like black holes and worm holes do serve a greater purpose.
[17:41] * MagicMan` raises his hand again
[17:41] <Hermes`> go magicman
[17:41] *** MagicMan` has quit IRC (ircd.stealth.net irc.stealth.net)
[17:42] <Gamble> there... you sent him away.. :)
[17:42] <Hermes`> wow, the power of the question.
[17:43] <Gamble> you said go and he is gone
[17:43] *** MagicMan` has joined #energyworks
[17:43] <sor--> :)
[17:43] <Hermes`> welcome back magicman
[17:43] <MagicMan`> damn cutoff's
[17:44] <Hermes`> next time I won't say "go magic". I'll say " let's have the question."
[17:44] <MagicMan`> ehehe
[17:45] <MagicMan`> huh? what question? :)
[17:45] <Hermes`> * MagicMan` raises his hand again
[17:45] <Hermes`> ^that question
[17:45] <MagicMan`> ah :)
[17:45] <MagicMan`> sorry
[17:46] <MagicMan`> ER forget it
[17:46] <MagicMan`> memory failure there :|
[17:46] <MagicMan`> its something related to all of we have been talking tonight but I can't remember what I was going to ask
[17:48] <Hermes`> ah,
[17:48] <Hermes`> now keep in mind that you do not have to out of body travel to access these alternate dimensions and travel backward in time.
[17:49] <Hermes`> you possess the greatest tool of all to do this right now: your imagination.
[17:49] <Hermes`> When you use your imagination a part of your consciousness will be sent to the place you want it to go. It can and will interact there, just as if you were there in an out of body condition.
[17:50] <Hermes`> I do encourage you to use this tool often in your daily reality creating to help yourself now in the present.
[17:51] <Hermes`> don't let the body limit what you can create, just because you think you can't access the past or the future...
[17:51] <Hermes`> play with the idea of sending your consciousness into the past or future and see what is there...
[17:51] <Hermes`> you did this often when you were a child, and it was lots of fun and very much helped you to develop and grow.
[17:52] <Hermes`> why forget a tool just because other people say you can't use it or it is not possible. Test it for yourself.
[17:53] <Hermes`> go into a relaxed state and send your mind back in time to the point you want to investigate and change. Then change it. Then watch to see how that effects your present over the next few days...
[17:53] <Hermes`> it won't take long to see the power and benefit of such things.
[17:57] <Hermes`> ... and a hush comes over the room.
[17:58] <Hermes`> well if there is nothing else I will depart
[17:58] <Hermes`> I will return this Thursday. I missed the last two Thursdays, but hopefully that won't happen anymore.
[17:59] <Hermes`> night
[17:59] *** Disconnected
Session Close: Tue Jan 04 17:59:07 2000
[16:42] *** Now talking in #energyworks
[16:42] *** Topic is 'You Create your World -->'
[16:42] <Hermes`> okay
[16:42] <Hermes`> how is everyone
[16:42] <_-> hi Hermes
[16:42] <MagicMan`> all systems go from here :)
[16:42] <_-> its me Ranger
[16:43] *** _- is now known as Ranger_
[16:43] <Hermes`> hi ranger, magic, sor -- who is away.
[16:43] <Hermes`> and gamble
[16:43] <sor--> Hermes`:going good
[16:44] <Hermes`> ah soren has returned
[16:44] <sor--> :)
[16:44] * sor-- has returned. (Dead, 1h 59m 10s)
[16:44] <Hermes`> So any riveting things going on with anyone in the esoteric?
[16:45] <MagicMan`> don't think so
[16:46] <sor--> nothing much
[16:46] <Hermes`> :(
[16:47] * MagicMan` raises his hand
[16:47] <Hermes`> oooh!
[16:47] <Hermes`> a question
[16:47] <Hermes`> go Magicman
[16:48] <MagicMan`> question: A topic not spoken at all here, Cydonia as been a mystery in scientific community ...What are you views on that?
[16:48] <Hermes`> Cydonia?
[16:48] <MagicMan`> (if any eeheh)
[16:49] <MagicMan`> guess none ...
[16:49] <MagicMan`> well let me find a webpage on it and maybe you can remember something
[16:49] <Hermes`> good idea,
[16:51] <MagicMan`> does the word "Mars" ring a bell?
[16:51] <Hermes`> that is a planet
[16:51] <MagicMan`> maybe this can help:
[16:51] <MagicMan`> http://www.cybooks.com/index.htm
[16:52] <MagicMan`> just found that so I don't know if the info. There is reliable
[16:52] <Hermes`> okay so this is about the people that lived on Mars.
[16:53] <MagicMan`> yeah in theory...
[16:53] <Hermes`> from my understanding the Mars colony was set up to help develop human DNA. Of course it was there a very long time and they did not only do this work.
[16:53] <MagicMan`> Alteans or whatever?
[16:53] <Hermes`> yea, those dudes
[16:54] <Hermes`> now, I'm sure they will find signs of life there, once they really start looking, if they have not found it already and are just keeping it secret.
[16:54] <MagicMan`> what about the meaning of the structures found? the face, the city
[16:55] <MagicMan`> I think the face picture is on that webpage
[16:55] <Hermes`> yea that also points to this ancient civilization.
[16:55] <MagicMan`> any purpose for it?
[16:56] <MagicMan`> ...a giant human-like face in the middle of mars ...
[16:57] <Hermes`> well I would say to that... what is the purpose of those faces in the side of Mount Rushmore?
[16:57] <MagicMan`> homage then
[16:57] <Hermes`> exactly
[16:57] <Hermes`> you don't build these large human like things for any other reason.
[16:58] <MagicMan`> I guess my question cleared up then
[16:58] <Hermes`> I suppose it is our natures to want to leave behind these kinds of things as a way to cheat death.
[16:58] <MagicMan`> at least you learned a new word eheheh (cydonia)
[16:59] <Hermes`> I had heard the word but was not sure where it was referring to.
[16:59] <Hermes`> I remember the controversy over that picture when it came back.
[17:00] <Hermes`> on one hand many people wanted to shout that life existed on other worlds and then there was this big opposition against it.
[17:01] <Hermes`> in the end, I suppose people were not ready to give up their singular status yet.
[17:01] <Hermes`> So it was just shoved aside as a big photo glitch.
[17:01] <Hermes`> too bad actually. It would of been nice to see some real scientific data on it.
[17:02] <MagicMan`> yep :|
[17:02] <MagicMan`> some say NASA is covering up information
[17:03] <Hermes`> they may be.
[17:03] <MagicMan`> well just a comment now
[17:04] <Hermes`> sure
[17:04] <MagicMan`> ever heard about the Philadelphia experiment?
[17:04] <Hermes`> yea, and the Montauk project too.
[17:05] <Hermes`> I did not live too far from Montauk.
[17:05] <Hermes`> that island it still locked up tight and the energy coming from it is very strange.
[17:06] <MagicMan`> well the theory that was brought out from that was the "palipestum theory" (not sure if I spelled it correctly). That theory certifies the concept you explain on the webpage of simultaneous time
[17:07] <MagicMan`> that least I think it does :)
[17:08] <Hermes`> I have not read the report to be honest so I could not say.
[17:08] <Hermes`> but it is nice to see that stuff coming out.
[17:09] <MagicMan`> that theory says : " If a paper all written is erased and written over it , you can still see the past writings. Also that also applies to the future writings"
[17:09] <MagicMan`> I don't much about it either...
[17:10] <MagicMan`> that paper thing works for the past... not so sure how it goes for the future...
[17:10] <Hermes`> you mean as far as the report goes?
[17:11] <MagicMan`> now this is isn't from the incidents reports
[17:11] <MagicMan`> this is from investigation on the theory
[17:12] <Hermes`> for the human mind, which has memory of the past, it is far easier to grasp the idea of the past happening now, than the future, which man cannot remember...
[17:13] <Hermes`> however, when you start to put probabilities into the idea of simultaneous time, the future and past become very busy places.
[17:14] <Hermes`> for now, you can see or visit the future, but that future does not necessarily have to be the one you experience.
[17:14] <MagicMan`> yep, when grasping reality creating ...
[17:14] * sor-- raises his hand
[17:15] <Hermes`> go sor
[17:15] <MagicMan`> go for it although I have still one or two lined up
[17:15] <sor--> if there isn't only this universe
[17:15] <sor--> is possible to travel in other universes?
[17:16] <Hermes`> sure, once you are free of the physical moment, all those things become possible. The physical plane is meant to be a moment to moment reality, but other realities are not by nature ordered this way.
[17:17] <sor--> how to go there? To travel in time you explained the technique of the energy bubble and calendar
[17:18] <sor--> but to go there I didn't find nothing in the library:/
[17:18] <MagicMan`> ascension?
[17:18] <Hermes`> in library you mean the Akasahic records?
[17:19] <sor--> no,your library:)
[17:19] <MagicMan`> eheh
[17:19] <Hermes`> oh yes...
[17:19] <sor--> wish I can read the Akasahic:)
[17:19] <Hermes`> hehe
[17:19] <Hermes`> in that technique you go back in time to change an event that happened in your past. You do this in an out of time framework to alter your present conditions in some way.
[17:20] <Hermes`> with that technique, you have to take into account the physical plane's moment-to-moment nature and the fact that you can change probabilities.
[17:21] <Hermes`> you go back in time using your mind and imagination and alter what happened. Then in time (because this is a moment-to-moment reality) your present will change to reflect these changes.
[17:23] <Hermes`> that technique should be in with the Simultaneous time chapter.
[17:23] <Hermes`> I use it often myself to alter things in my life.
[17:24] <Hermes`> for example it is also a great way to help yourself or forgive yourself. You travel back in time to when you needed support or love and give yourself it. In return your future self starts to visit you and do the same.
[17:24] * MagicMan` raises his hand for follow up
[17:24] <sor--> oki,but what I mean,is if is possible to travel to parallel universes
[17:25] <Hermes`> one moment magic man...
[17:25] <MagicMan`> oh sorry
[17:26] <Hermes`> Yes it is possible to travel to other parallel universes. And you do this all the time in dreams. You can also do this a bit more consciously with out of body travel.
[17:27] <Hermes`> did I answer your question sor?
[17:28] <sor--> yap
[17:28] <Hermes`> go ahead magicman, if sor is finished.
[17:28] <sor--> finished for now:)
[17:28] <MagicMan`> you didn't offer a technique for him, but ...
[17:29] <sor--> I think that in oobe u just need to decide where u want to go
[17:29] <MagicMan`> ok I'm gonna go for it
[17:30] <MagicMan`> follow up : do black holes and other space anomalies fit in some kind of "easy to travel" technique (in oobes or else)?
[17:30] <Hermes`> yes in an obe it is easy. You just think yourself there.
[17:30] <Hermes`> in the nonphysical you can move through time and space as easily as you move through a room. It is just another dimension.
[17:32] <Hermes`> in an obe you travel through these things all the time. It is a fast way to get across the galaxy quickly.
[17:33] <MagicMan`> (any of those comments are for the follow up?)
[17:34] <Hermes`> if you read about the Tree of Life in the Library and noticed the reference to the colored tunnels. Well these tunnels are worm holes of a sort. They take you from one place to another.
[17:34] <Hermes`> yea they all are the follow up.
[17:35] <MagicMan`> ???
[17:36] <Hermes`> magic, you wanted to know about black holes
[17:37] <MagicMan`> er...anybody outhere?
[17:37] <Hermes`> did I not understand the question.
[17:38] <MagicMan`> ok kinda like the tree of life Sephira connection tubes?
[17:38] <MagicMan`> er sorry tunnels
[17:38] <MagicMan`> :)
[17:39] <Hermes`> exactly like those tubes.
[17:39] <Hermes`> they are small black holes or worm holes that lead you to these places.
[17:39] <Hermes`> otherwise it would take a long time to get there.
[17:40] <MagicMan`> ehehe
[17:41] <MagicMan`> guess I answered my own question back there
[17:41] <Hermes`> because in the nonphysical there are additional dimensions, traveling through these kinds of things are possible. It also demonstrates that things like black holes and worm holes do serve a greater purpose.
[17:41] * MagicMan` raises his hand again
[17:41] <Hermes`> go magicman
[17:41] *** MagicMan` has quit IRC (ircd.stealth.net irc.stealth.net)
[17:42] <Gamble> there... you sent him away.. :)
[17:42] <Hermes`> wow, the power of the question.
[17:43] <Gamble> you said go and he is gone
[17:43] *** MagicMan` has joined #energyworks
[17:43] <sor--> :)
[17:43] <Hermes`> welcome back magicman
[17:43] <MagicMan`> damn cutoff's
[17:44] <Hermes`> next time I won't say "go magic". I'll say " let's have the question."
[17:44] <MagicMan`> ehehe
[17:45] <MagicMan`> huh? what question? :)
[17:45] <Hermes`> * MagicMan` raises his hand again
[17:45] <Hermes`> ^that question
[17:45] <MagicMan`> ah :)
[17:45] <MagicMan`> sorry
[17:46] <MagicMan`> ER forget it
[17:46] <MagicMan`> memory failure there :|
[17:46] <MagicMan`> its something related to all of we have been talking tonight but I can't remember what I was going to ask
[17:48] <Hermes`> ah,
[17:48] <Hermes`> now keep in mind that you do not have to out of body travel to access these alternate dimensions and travel backward in time.
[17:49] <Hermes`> you possess the greatest tool of all to do this right now: your imagination.
[17:49] <Hermes`> When you use your imagination a part of your consciousness will be sent to the place you want it to go. It can and will interact there, just as if you were there in an out of body condition.
[17:50] <Hermes`> I do encourage you to use this tool often in your daily reality creating to help yourself now in the present.
[17:51] <Hermes`> don't let the body limit what you can create, just because you think you can't access the past or the future...
[17:51] <Hermes`> play with the idea of sending your consciousness into the past or future and see what is there...
[17:51] <Hermes`> you did this often when you were a child, and it was lots of fun and very much helped you to develop and grow.
[17:52] <Hermes`> why forget a tool just because other people say you can't use it or it is not possible. Test it for yourself.
[17:53] <Hermes`> go into a relaxed state and send your mind back in time to the point you want to investigate and change. Then change it. Then watch to see how that effects your present over the next few days...
[17:53] <Hermes`> it won't take long to see the power and benefit of such things.
[17:57] <Hermes`> ... and a hush comes over the room.
[17:58] <Hermes`> well if there is nothing else I will depart
[17:58] <Hermes`> I will return this Thursday. I missed the last two Thursdays, but hopefully that won't happen anymore.
[17:59] <Hermes`> night
[17:59] *** Disconnected
Session Close: Tue Jan 04 17:59:07 2000
