Hermes Workshop Log File

Camelot key; vampires & energy suckers; reality creating a new place to live; Adam and Eve, Cain & Abel; The OLAP healers; Doplegangers; Strange energy in England; Stonehedge & sensitivity to energy; recommended reading;

July 11, 2000

Session Start: Tue Jul 11 16:52:49 2000
*** Now talking in #energyworks
*** Topic is 'Astral Projection, Lucid Dreams and more are yours to explore!'
<Hermes`> howdy people
<Hermes`> purest must be pureheart
<Purest> yea my nick is being used by someone else =(
<Hermes`> and gamble is back from his vacation
<MagicMan> howdy
<Purest> hey teacher!
<iWonder> hi master
<Gamble`> hi herm
<MagicMan> hi purest
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<GargowL> Merry meet
<Purest> Hermes did you find the number which helps to get to Camelot?
<MagicMan> pure, wasn't that a key?
<Hermes`> well you don't really need the key
<Hermes`> I have not found it yet
<Hermes`> I have to dig through pages and pages of text, and I have been a bit busy
<Purest> ok, I just can't control where I'm going in the nonphysical
<Hermes`> yea it is hard to control that at first
<Hermes`> you do wind up somewhere
<MagicMan> I'm looking for some good books to buy on the subject if anybody knows of any please pvt me
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<GargowL> Hermes: what do you know about Vampires?
<MagicMan> gargowl stop playing vampire the masquerade
<GargowL> I've been playing a great game about them and I'd really like to know more...
<Hermes`> well if you are going to Translvania take along some wooden stakes
<Cyprus> I bet your talking about Vampires, Nercoricom, etc...
<MagicMan> cyp nop...gargowl just brought that up
<MagicMan> good you did that if you remember of any good book titles pvt me with 'em
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<MagicMan> full full full house
<MagicMan> hi DA_bragga
<Cyprus> i decided before trying Share OBEs I should have more experiences in OBEs
<DA_bragga> hey-ya people *S*
<Purest> hey H! =)
<DA_bragga> hey pureH! =)
<Cyprus> how many Portuguese is there in this channel?
<iWonder> 1
<MagicMan> forget about it
<DA_bragga> hey magicMan =9
<MagicMan> hmm I'm intrigue by that welcome comment DA_bragga hmmm
<MagicMan> hey pure, read the last log? we had another female in here
<DA_bragga> Magicman, whatever do you mean?
<MagicMan> DA_bragga, forget it
<Purest> yea Magic, she's really nice
<MagicMan> thought so too
<Purest> I noticed =)
<MagicMan> huh? :)
<DA_bragga> MagicMan > I shall do so, then. =)
<MagicMan> btw pure, you got any good books?
<MagicMan> do you guys?
<DA_bragga> Hermes => I found a place to live, by meeting a guy in our capital city. Some would say it was coincidence that I talked to just him, but of course we know otherwise...
<Hermes`> DA_bragga, good reality creating there.
<DA_bragga> Hermes > I met him on the street... Yeah, but I just believed in it... Haven't done anything special...
<Hermes`> well belief is enough at times
<DA_bragga> I guess I was helped from higher places...
<Hermes`> well don't underestimate the power of your own reality creating...
<Hermes`> but yes often your nonphysical teachers may help
<DA_bragga> I will try not to... I'd really like to meet those "guys" soon...
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<GargowL> Hermes: are there any physical or nonphysical vampires?
<Hermes`> well your best friend can be a vampire
<Hermes`> but in the vampire I'm talking about is an energy one
<Hermes`> a person that sucks the energy right out of you
<Cyprus> hey
<Cyprus> I just remembered something
<DA_bragga> I know vampires...
<Cyprus> its related with that energy sucking thing
<Cyprus> can I send you a file (txt) hermes?
<Cyprus> its a message of a Black Magick Mailing List
<DA_bragga> often "normal" people mistake charisma for energy sucking vampires
<Hermes`> yea true DA_bragga
<Hermes`> Gargowl, I have never really heard of a physical vampire
<Hermes`> and in the nonphysical, you can conjure anything up with your imagination
<Hermes`> in the nonphysical about all that exists is some person like you and me who may use these images against you, to scare you.
<DA_bragga> hermes > what kind of protection can you use in the nonphysical? Also I've read about some demon that could "hold me down"?
<GargowL> according to what I've read, When Cain killed Abel (the children of Adam an his first wife) God cursed Cain...
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<MagicMan> finally...
<GargowL> I had never heard about Adam having another wife... I thought Eve was the 1st...
<MagicMan> gargowl, Lilith
<GargowL> yeah, that's the name
<GargowL> does the Holy Bible mention her and Cain?
<Hermes`> with Adam and Eve, some stories have him with one wife and others with several
<GargowL> how about Cain? I remember hearing he had killed Abel, but I never heard of him becoming the 1st Vampire
<Hermes`> well I never heard about Cain being a vampire
<GargowL> neither had I
<DA_bragga> me neither
* iWonder has something he would to share with you all
<Cyprus> I am with lag?
<Cyprus> or is everybody shut up?
<GargowL> go ahead iwonder
<GargowL> cyp: as always, you're with lag :P
* Cyprus to iWonder, go ahead, I'm next.... :)
<iWonder> I'm cutting and pasting part of the pvt with Hermes...
<Hermes`> Iwonder's dad had an encounter with the OLAP healers
<DA_bragga> IWonder> Cool! Tell about it
<Cyprus> Cool
<Cyprus> do they have a phone number? ;)
<iWonder> ok, I'm ready, this may interest some of you
<DA_bragga> iWonder > we're ready too!
<iWonder> there are quite a couple of lines that I will play with 1000 secs delay hoping not to get thrown out
<DA_bragga> 1000 seconds!! hmm.. isn´t that a bit slow?
<DA_bragga> that's one message per 16 minutes
<iWonder> just before I start my dad was diagnostic an abdominal aneurism and due to his heart condition it's risky to operate physically
<iWonder> so here it goes
<iWonder> <iWonder> hi Hermes
<iWonder> <Hermes`> hi there
<iWonder> <iWonder> read your e-mail, thanks
<iWonder> <Hermes`> well I do hope it helps
<iWonder> <iWonder> actually I think I have interesting news :)
<iWonder> <Hermes`> good
<iWonder> <iWonder> I told dad on Sunday to call for the OLAP's
<iWonder> <iWonder> yesterday night it happened, and he saw everything in a lucid dream
<iWonder> <iWonder> he's quite used to astral travel
<iWonder> <Hermes`> really wow
<iWonder> <iWonder> channel material ?
<iWonder> <Hermes`> so your dad then got a first hand look at the OLAP healers.
<iWonder> <iWonder> looks like
<iWonder> <Hermes`> they can be a big help in helping him heal
<iWonder> <iWonder> there were 4 people
<iWonder> <Hermes`> unless you really want to share it
<iWonder> <Hermes`> I do not object
<iWonder> <Hermes`> okay go ahead
<iWonder> <iWonder> a man and a woman he describes as thirty something
<iWonder> <iWonder> and two white creatures about 1 meter height(3 feet ?) transparent like...
<iWonder> <iWonder> I meant thirty not thirty
<iWonder> <iWonder> the white creatures had no face
<iWonder> <iWonder> they worked on the area of the aneurism and legs for about 5 minutes he says
<iWonder> <iWonder> when they were leaving he tried to talk to them to thank
<iWonder> <iWonder> one of them put his finger between his eyes and said...
<iWonder> <iWonder> there was also a problem here, it's fixed also
<iWonder> <iWonder> he woke up straight away
<iWonder> <Hermes`> wonderful!
<iWonder> <Hermes`> that is nice that they came so fast.
<iWonder> <iWonder> this is incredible
<iWonder> <iWonder> does the description match ?
<iWonder> <Hermes`> yea
<iWonder> <Hermes`> the physical like beings were the OLAP and the wispy ones were the ARN surgeons
<iWonder> <Hermes`> they often work together
<iWonder> <iWonder> wow
<iWonder> <iWonder> he saw the ARN ?
<iWonder> <Hermes`> it sounds like it
<iWonder> <Hermes`> the ARN work on a finer energy level
<iWonder> <Hermes`> I call the OLAP the cut and past guys cause they are much like physical surgeons.
<iWonder> <Hermes`> they take things out, put them back, splice, patch
<iWonder> <Hermes`> the ARN work on the energy template that surrounds your body
<iWonder> <iWonder> that is good news
<iWonder> <iWonder> I hope he heals
<iWonder> that's it
<Cyprus> COOL
* iWonder what if I had played the file with less than a 1000 milliseconds, kicked for flooding :)
<DA_bragga> Woow, that's really great! *smiles broadly*
<iWonder> well, the next TAC (CAT scan) will say something.
<iWonder> the aorta is twice of what it should be (normally is an inch, dad 's is two inches, 5 cms)
<DA_bragga> man, I am so glad to hear that other people than Hermes confirm this... (no hard feelings, Hermes? =)
<Hermes`> it is good to have others be able to use these tools
<Cyprus> hi again
<iWonder> it is good to have someone showing us that these tools exist
<Purest> yea iWonder!
<DA_bragga> exactly!
<Cyprus> I once used the used the OLAP surgeons....
<DA_bragga> I've asked for their help, and my knees are perfect now... but I don't know whether they had something to do with it?
<iWonder> I've also called them myself
<iWonder> I felt something, but nothing like what dad relates
<Cyprus> in my case was a little weird
<Cyprus> its like those spiritualists do
<DA_bragga> cyprus > tell about it
<Cyprus> to write things
<Cyprus> there was a kind of channeling through Hands
<Cyprus> I had "burned"(not exactly BURN) my finger, koz I touched hot metal(Kitchen)
<Cyprus> my hand started to move around the finger
<DA_bragga> be right back
<Hermes`> Cyprus
<Hermes`> what do you mean?
<Cyprus> I felt energy healing it
<Cyprus> in which part?
<Hermes`> when you burned you hand
<Hermes`> you hand started to move when the OLAP came in to heal it?
<Cyprus> no
<Cyprus> I had before all this
<Cyprus> burned my finger
<Cyprus> then
<Cyprus> later (koz it was really hurting)
<Cyprus> I called them
<Cyprus> now,I think its called "automatic writing"!?
<Cyprus> the hand is "possessed" and writes things
<DA_bragga> back
<Cyprus> have you heard about that?
<Hermes`> yea
<Hermes`> what kinds of things are you writing?
<MagicMan`> not just write...draw too
<Cyprus> hum?
<Cyprus> nothing
<Cyprus> lol
<Cyprus> your confusing
<Cyprus> when I called them
<Cyprus> there was a kind of channeling through the hand
<Cyprus> the hand started to "work"
<Hermes`> ah I understand now Cyprus
<Cyprus> its normal right?
<Hermes`> well it is normal for the OLAP to have some kind of effect as they do the work
<iWonder> that's what happened to me, my hands couldn't´t stay still, always pressing here and there
<Cyprus> iWonder: Shiatsu?

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<Hermes`> computer crash
<Hermes`> but I have returned
<Hermes`> what did I miss
<DA_bragga> hey hermes ! WV
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<DA_bragga> => WB *S*
<Hermes`> I was saying...
<Hermes`> it is normal for the OLAP to take control of your hand and work energy in your body
<Hermes`> this teaches you how to do it yourself and it helps them to better heal you.
<Cyprus> koz of that I know how to heal myself a burn next time
<Hermes`> So have you used the OLAP healers for anything else Cyprus?
<Cyprus> nop
<Cyprus> not that I remembered
<Cyprus> the interesting part which really surprised me, was that after the session, the finger didn´t hurt anymore
<Hermes`> the OLAP can help with easing pain
<Hermes`> they install pain blocks, while the healing takes place
<Hermes`> then they remove them or they just fade away over time.
<Cyprus> well
<Cyprus> lets not all fall asleep
<GargowL> my turn now... I've been reading a book about Astral projection for beginners...
<Cyprus> lol
<Cyprus> go ahead
<GargowL> there is a part where they speak of Doplegangers....
<GargowL> kind of a mirror being... it's just like us and does exactly the same thing as we do...
<Hermes`> what else does it say about them?
<GargowL> not much...
<GargowL> it only tells us some stories with them...
<GargowL> some people have thought it was their physical body and tried to enter it...
<Hermes`> strange
<Cyprus> yea
<Hermes`> because I have never seen one of these
<Hermes`> and I have done lots of [nonphysical] traveling
<Cyprus> well, the book could be inventing....
<Cyprus> I have noticed that some commercial have lots of Bullsh*t
<GargowL> they give the names of the books and the pages of the stories they tell
<Hermes`> sometimes you meet yourself in the nonphysical. But this is either a projection of your own self, or your spirit guide, or a past or future self.
<GargowL> it's not in the nonphysical, they are physical and some people have touched them..
<GargowL> they do exactly the same thing as the person
<Hermes`> oh this is a physical phenomena
<Hermes`> that is strange, but then again, if it is from someone in England then anything is possible because the energy there is real strange at times.
<GargowL> I have no idea where it's from....
<DA_bragga> what is with England, Hermes? (I'm close to England)
<Hermes`> I never really saw a ghost (in the physical) till I went to England.
<Cyprus> hum...
<Hermes`> while I was there a cat came into the room and walked through a wall and was gone
<Cyprus> cool
<Cyprus> why is energy in England strange?
<Hermes`> I told the person I was staying with and they said "oh you met the cat ghost"
<Hermes`> It seems in England there has been so much violence over the centuries there, that many souls are trapped...
<Hermes`> and the land itself has little grounding properties, so energy twists and turns and does strange things there.
<DA_bragga> whaaaa?
<DA_bragga> awesome
<DA_bragga> So that is why it´s always raining! *lol*
<Hermes`> many people there can recount very strange things. It is almost a typical occurrence.
<Cyprus> what about Stonehedge?
<Hermes`> I visited Stonehedge, and got very sick from the energy there.
<Hermes`> I had to leave
<Hermes`> The stones are some kind of energy amplifier and storer of energy
<Hermes`> and because so many tourists visit the stones their chaotic energy permeates the stones
<Hermes`> I'm very sensitive to that kind of energy.
<DA_bragga> Merkabah?
<Hermes`> yea tried that
<DA_bragga> didn´t help?
<Hermes`> it was just too many people's energy being thrown at me.
<DA_bragga> =(
<Hermes`> sometimes the best protection scheme is to just leave.
<Hermes`> now I don't know what the real purpose of Stonehedge is or was
<Hermes`> but this is what I noted from my encounter there.
<GargowL> so Stonehedge has been corrupted by the tourists....
<GargowL> sad
<Cyprus> lol
<Hermes`> I guess you could say that about Stonehedge
<GargowL> can't you send a LA back in time to find out it's original purpose?

<Hermes`> gargowl: well I guess I can, but I have not really thought to do so.
<DA_bragga> yeah... During the last couple of months I have become incredibly sensitive to own "wrong" thoughts
<Hermes`> that is good DA_bragga, it means you can clean them up.
<DA_bragga> I am really being told very quickly that I have thought wrong, usually about someone, and I am shown that I can do exactly the same mistakes that I disrespected the other person for doing
<Hermes`> DA_bragga, that is real good. You are learning how to expose those needed areas
<Hermes`> DA_bragga, keep that up and soon you will be shining like a hot star of light.
<DA_bragga> Hermes =) I will... Thanx
<DA_bragga> Hey MagicMan!
<Hermes`> I like to see that some of you are working on your inner selves to clean it up
<Hermes`> it is so much an important part of this whole package here we talk about.
<Hermes`> learning the nonphysical skills, raising your energy, clearing out the dark parts of yourself, and reality creating are all so important in the overall evolution of your soul.
<DA_bragga> Yeah... but I have absolutely no exp. in nonphysical skills--
<Hermes`> well they will come
<Hermes`> keep in mind, that something like calling in the OLAP healers is a nonphysical skill.
<Hermes`> and the energy exercises
<Hermes`> So you really can't say you have little nonphysical experience.
<DA_bragga> hermes > ok.. I thought about lucid dreams and OBE only.. :-)
<Hermes`> magic,
<Hermes`> how did the OBE attempt go on Thursday?
<MagicMan> slept unfortunately
<Hermes`> did you go through any of the stages before you feel asleep?
<MagicMan> sorry I don't remember...seems so long ago
<MagicMan> best attempt was the day after...I got to the ever frustrating vibs...this time medium strength in arms and legs
<Hermes`> wow, good
<Hermes`> it is a start
<Hermes`> you have to learn how to deepen the trance at that point
<Hermes`> this is a trial and error kind of thing, that really can not be taught
<Hermes`> sometimes, I would pull that vibration feeling with my mind to cover my entire body
<Hermes`> this did work sometimes
<Hermes`> other times, just breathing more deeply worked
<Hermes`> here is one you can try
<Hermes`> when you get the vibrations use your imagination and imagine them covering your entire body.
<MagicMan> btw, I asked you about good book titles earlier do you have any on the subject? (besides yours)
<Hermes`> the subject of nonphysical travel?
<Hermes`> or just general hermetic reading?
<MagicMan> yea something like that
<Hermes`> Lewellyn has a book on astral projection I liked, but my copy was lent out and never came back. It had a picture of a woman on the cover in a red jumpsuit laying down with her nonphysical body coming out.
<MagicMan> a guide or just a good book about the metaphysical
<Hermes`> the book "Simplified Magic" is very good on the Tree of Life and basic magical actions.
<Hermes`> actually there is much on how to use the tree of life in there and how to improve your life.
<Hermes`> now if you really want to clean out the self of bad actions and negativity and repeating patterns then you want the Saint Germain Series by Saint Germain Press.
<Hermes`> http://www.saintgermainpress.com/
<MagicMan> Harry Lewellyn or Walter Lewellyn?
<Hermes`> Lewellyn publishing
<MagicMan> ohh gonna be hard to find that one without the author/isbn/title
<Hermes`> here is the Lewellyn book
<Hermes`> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0875421814/qid=963358225/sr=1-1/104-4241187-4119168
<Hermes`> its by Melita Denning, Osborne Phillips
<MagicMan> I'm thinking about ordering by amazon, any good?
<Hermes`> well I liked the book, but it seems by the page it did not get good reviews
<Hermes`> I get my books from amazon
<Hermes`> well it is time to go
<Hermes`> I'll catch everyone on Thursday
<MagicMan> that was what I was going to say...not so good reviews
<Purest> =) see you!
<Hermes`> happy travels.
<MagicMan> see you
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Session Close: Tue Jul 11 19:34:00 2000