Hermes Workshop Log File

Session Start: Tue Jul 25 15:49:58 2000
*** Now talking in #energyworks
*** Topic is 'Astral Projection, Lucid Dreams and more are yours to explore!'
<Hermes`> hello hello hello,
<Hermes`> and we are open
<fo0k> hi
<Gamble-> hi
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<PE> Hey :)
<Hermes`> hi PE
<PE> what is up in Florida?
<Hermes`> we just had a thunderstorm
<Hermes`> lots or rain and lightening
<Hermes`> now the sun is back out
<PE> That's usual in Florida, isn't it?
<Hermes`> yea
<Hermes`> it will do that for about an hour a day
<PE> How are the energies around us?
<Hermes`> very good
<fo0k> what energies? around who?
<Hermes`> just the energy in general
<PE> So I should try oobeing? :)
<Hermes`> when was your last attempt
<PE> About 4 days ago
<PE> The last successful attempt was on 6th of may :(
<Hermes`> yea you could
<Hermes`> try saying silently the Camelot key over and over in your head as you try to go into a trance
<Hermes`> the key is THURSTALL
<PE> thurstall ...
<Hermes`> perhaps, at the very least you will have a dream about Camelot
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<MagicMan> back
<PE> how to pronounce it?
<MagicMan> hi hermes, PE
<PE> Hey MAgicman :)
<Hermes`> well the Thur is like the word Thursday
<PE> kay
<PE> okay
<PE> Tall is like tall :)
<Hermes`> and the stall is like a car stall
<Hermes`> yea tall
<MagicMan> u guys talking about that Concorde?
<PE> no
<Hermes`> no Camelot
<Hermes`> I suggested PE try to OBE to Camelot using the key
<MagicMan> well it stalled before it crashed
<Hermes`> yea that crash was a bit nasty
<PE> lots of death
<PE> Lot of ppl has died there
<Hermes`> yea it is quite a way to leave this world.
<Hermes`> plane crash trauma can be a tough thing to get over. My hope is that many of those souls were removed from their bodies moments before the crash.
<Hermes`> this does happen
<PE> Who could remove them?
<Hermes`> there is a team of nonphysical spirit guides and out of body travelers that do that kind of thing.
<Hermes`> I once had such a duty
<PE> Hermes, after I die, I can choose if I go back onto the earth or I stay there forever?
<Hermes`> Well it depends.
<Hermes`> if you have chosen to live a certain number of lives on the earth, you will have to finish that contract
<PE> And why don't I remember my past lives now?
<PE> How will I know them after my death?
<Hermes`> that is so they do not interfere with what you are learning now.
<Hermes`> after death, you go through a period of adjustment as you settle the lessons you learned in the last life...
<Hermes`> then your memories of all your past lives are returned to you.
<PE> okay, it's clear for me...
<PE> How could I know now what I was doing in my past life?
<Hermes`> well you can see this in dreams, in OBE's or even in hypnosis
<PE> and if I like something to do in my actual life, is it certain that I did it in my past life, too?
<PE> Is there dependence between them?
<Hermes`> who you are will always transfer over to the new lifetime...
<Hermes`> so if you like sports, than this will transfer over to your current life.
<Hermes`> sometimes however, you like something because it is new to you and this life
<MagicMan> hmm computers
<Hermes`> computers are very new to the planet
<Hermes`> though in Atlantis there was devices like this
<Hermes`> but it has been a long time since we played with them
<Hermes`> the computers in Atlantis were more of a lunar consciousness construction
<Hermes`> memory crystals, heliographic projections, mental connections
<MagicMan> just what I was going to ask...crystal based tech
<Hermes`> yes very inner mind oriented stuff
<Hermes`> used for storing and transferring knowledge. Telepathic communications
<PE> Hermes: how could we discover them again?
<MagicMan> humanity...fro crystals to silicon what a change
<MagicMan> fro=from
<Hermes`> well we can rediscover them and in a sense humanity will, as he learns to unite solar and lunar consciousness
<Hermes`> the computers of today are of a solar consciousness nature
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<MagicMan> at the rate we are going we'll drain our current silicon based tech's capabilities in about 50-100 years or less
<MagicMan> wb jason
<Hermes`> well, there will be more breakthroughs that will keep it going
<fo0k> Hermes`, damn, you typed my comment first
<Hermes`> :)
<Hermes`> sorry
<MagicMan> I was talking more like about microchip tech
<MagicMan> the basis of it all
<fo0k> Hermes`, np
<Gamble-> they're making the new CPUs with copper now, just btw...
<MagicMan> hmm
<Gamble-> and we'll have destroyed earth in 50-100 years anyway if we continue like this... burning things to make energy and so forth so I wouldn't worry too much about it
<fo0k> Hermes`, how fast do you think that the moral of humankind will improve?
<Hermes`> I hope very fast
<Hermes`> I would like to see the Mideast have peace in the next 5 to 7 years
<fo0k> are there any sings of it happening?
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<Hermes`> I see signs everyday that tell me man is evolving and growing.
<fo0k> Hermes`, I meant the moral in general..
<fo0k> what kind of sings?
<Hermes`> more people caring about the environment, and peace, and people thinking about the consequences of the things they have created.
<fo0k> yeps
<PE> Hermes, what will be the end of this game? All the ppl will be peaceful and lovely?
<fo0k> things should really change, I'm bored with the stillness of everything
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<PE> What will be the next stage?
<Hermes`> as far as man's morals, we've come a long way in 2000 years. Just think back to the way we thought back then
<Hermes`> stoning people do death 2000 years ago was a natural everyday thing
<Hermes`> sacrificing our children
<fo0k> Hermes`, it's natural everyday thing in today's world also, in some countries
<Hermes`> yea, true but at least not all over the world
<fo0k> Hermes`, yeps. But torturing is VERY common these days still.
<fo0k> read the amnesty reports
<Hermes`> well, there is always room for improvement
<Hermes`> life in the planet is far from perfect
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<Hermes`> but I do believe we are moving in a positive direction, though at times ti may seem slow.
<Gamble-> the alternative is that we aren't moving... and that'd mean we'd be doomed
<Hermes`> yea. a pretty grim alternative
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<PE> The world is getting better and better day by day :)
<Hermes`> yes, I do believe this.
<fo0k> agreed in here also
<MagicMan> mayhap the world but not my connection :)
<PE> Hermes, how could be possible the hyperjump?
<PE> MM :))))
<Hermes`> you mean travel faster than light
<PE> yep
<Hermes`> this is easy to understand once you have view the physical universe from the outside
<Hermes`> the physical universe is very big but it is also spherical...
<Hermes`> so when you travel from the earth to the moon you do so along the surface of the physical universe...
<Hermes`> you in effect are going the long way around...
<Hermes`> when you hyper jump you open up a hole in the fabric of the universe and travel from one point to another in a more straight line.
<PE> But in vehicles
<PE> How could we do it?
<PE> What is the basic of the technique? Sicilian? Or what?
<Hermes`> well, you would have to develop tech that would be able to open up a hole and dive in.
<Gamble-> take 1kg of exotic matter, put it in a rotating magnetic filed powered by the plank energy and see if something opens in which you can throw the vehicle into :)
<Hermes`> yea gamble
<Hermes`> sounds good
<PE> exotic matter? What is it like? :)
<Gamble-> exotic matter has negative gravity
<Gamble-> (its only a theoretical thing, not known to exist btw)
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<Gamble-> they say exotic matter could be used to make it possible to travel through wormholes
<PE> And telepathy?
<PE> The same exotic matter to be used? :)
<Gamble-> move a coin on the table with your mind, create a wormhole with your mind... almost the same :)
<PE> :)
<PE> Gamble ... hmm :)
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<Hermes`> you constantly send out mental waves of energy. Telepathy is the picking up of these energy waves.
<PE> But does the universal law allow us to do that?
<Hermes`> sure
<Hermes`> there are no secrets in the nonphysical
<Hermes`> a secret is a physical illusion
<PE> It seems to be nice :)
<PE> Hermes, do you know the following book?
<PE> http://www.tadma.net/psychic/psybook/index.html
<PE> If not, could you take a look at it? I am curious what you think of it
<Hermes`> from the table of contents it looks like a very informative book
<Hermes`> it looks like a hefty read
<PE> aham
<Hermes`> very long
<Hermes`> my browser is still loading part one
<MagicMan> thanks for the URL PE :)
<PE> MagicMan: your welcome
<PE> Hermes: it is one file
<PE> the book is in one file I guess
<MagicMan> yea
<MagicMan> I've loaded already
<Hermes`> well it is in several sections
<PE> Okay, you won :))))
<Hermes`> oh wait
<Hermes`> you are right it is all one big file
<PE> I won :)
<Hermes`> it seems like something worth reading
<Hermes`> from skimming it
<PE> I just started it today :)
<PE> I started reading it just today
<Hermes`> when you are done you will have to let us all know how you liked it.
<PE> Yes, of course
<PE> Now I am going to have a shower
<MagicMan> see you PE
<PE> I am away ;)
<Hermes`> okay next
<MagicMan> no questions here
<Hermes`> here is a nice website on Enochian magic...
<PE> I arrived :)
<Hermes`> http://www.kondor.de/enoch/enochstart.html
<Hermes`> took a moment to get it
<MagicMan> can't get this song out of my head: "...I've seen it all, I've seen the dark.I've seen the brightness in one little spark. I've seen what I choose and I've seen what I need and that is enough..."
<PE> nice :)
<Hermes`> perhaps your spirit guide is singing it to you
<Hermes`> perhaps there is a message there
<PE> I am going to sleep, ppl :)
<PE> It was nice to see you
<PE> Have a good chat tonight
<Hermes`> okay see you PE
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<MagicMan> its a duet by bjork and thom yorke called "I've seen it all"
<MagicMan> there's a neat little part where bjork says "What about china, have you seen the great wall?" and thom says: " All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall"
<Hermes`> hehe
<Hermes`> very true
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<MagicMan> hey you made it
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<Hermes`> hi cyprus
<Cyprus_> hi
<Cyprus_> yea
<Cyprus_> were you talking about something?
<Hermes`> we were waiting for your questions
<Cyprus_> hehehe :)
<Cyprus_> well, I do have one, but I'm afraid it can be a little complicated, and I would prefer to save it for another day
<Hermes`> okay
<Cyprus_> besides that one, I don´t have any question that I can remember right now
<Hermes`> okay no questions. Well how about one of our 7 minute meditations then
<Hermes`> how about it magic, you up for it?
<Hermes`> you are always asking me
<MagicMan> hm
<MagicMan> I dunno, if you want to ...ok
<Cyprus_> hum
<Cyprus_> could you just wait about 10 minutes?
<Cyprus_> in about that time I will be home alone
<Hermes`> sure
<MagicMan> is there anything in particular, any trick I have to do while opening the third eye...I've failed performing the suneye everytime the flaw can only be there since I've done everything else just right
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<Hermes`> the suneye?
<MagicMan> yea that method where you go to sleep open your third eye while making sugestions...wake up after 6 hours...
<MagicMan> ...read something for an hour then go back to sleep again and repeat the process and the result is supposed to be 1 of 3 : you wake paralyzed, you have an ld, you have an OBE
<Hermes`> yea, that method can work.
<Hermes`> sometimes it just wakes you up
<Hermes`> actually I find my peeing method better
<MagicMan> ehehe
<MagicMan> well I think there is no problem doing that as well
<Hermes`> drink lots of water before bed, so you have to wake up to go to the bathroom. Then try to OBE <-- for those that did not know this method.
<Hermes`> and with this method you may get some great bathroom dreams
<Hermes`> hehe
<MagicMan> eheeheh
<MagicMan> well I had one dream which part of the scenery was my home bathroom...I think I talked about it here...
<MagicMan> yes it was the 'does blue turn you on?' dream
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<Hermes`> what was that again?
<Cyprus> what?
<MagicMan> that question was for me I guess
<Hermes`> yea I wanted magic to recount his bathroom dream
<MagicMan> know that I think of it there was another one with my bathroom as well
<MagicMan> one I was in the bath
<MagicMan> bathtub
<MagicMan> there other was with the child gm...and his mother and father. In which the mother I came to know 'upclose' :)
<Cyprus> OK
<Cyprus> my mother is gone
<Hermes`> okay ready everyone
<Cyprus> lets go party?
<Hermes`> we come back in 7 minutes
<Cyprus> just a minute
<Cyprus> can we have pets around?
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<Hermes`> sure
<Cyprus> OK
<Cyprus> just a minute
<Cyprus> I'm thinking about which music will I choose
<MagicMan> hm no music here I find that distracting for visualization
<Cyprus> I don´t
<Cyprus> it increases my visualization
<MagicMan> I think with music you get more images but less clear ones
<Hermes`> it is a personal matter
<MagicMan> without it less imagery but clearer
<MagicMan> you guys set
<MagicMan> ?
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<Cyprus> nop
<Cyprus> hey
<MagicMan> hi iwonder
<Cyprus> iwonder!
<Hermes`> hi iwonder
<Cyprus> just a minute plz
<iWonder> hi all
<iWonder> hi Hermes´
<Hermes`> iwonder, we're going away for seven minutes for a group meditation, you are welcome to join us.
<iWonder> yah, why not
<Cyprus> hum...
<Cyprus> I chose the music
<Cyprus> 6:11
<MagicMan> you guys done? I still got to change rooms
<Hermes`> okay everyone ready
<Cyprus> just 30 seconds
<MagicMan> 30 secs...Im leaving for the other room see you in 7min
<Cyprus> OK
<Hermes`> okay back in 7
<iWonder> what to focus on ?
<Cyprus> can it be 8 minutes?
<Cyprus> cya
<Hermes`> oh anything, just try to tune into the group mind
<iWonder> oki
<MagicMan> I am back
<iWonder> back
<Hermes`> I am back
<Cyprus> back
<Cyprus> can I suggest something?
<MagicMan> so what did you guys see?
<Cyprus> before we start teeling
<Cyprus> what we saw
<MagicMan> OK suggest away
<Cyprus> OK
<Cyprus> each one writes in a txt file
<Cyprus> what they saw
<Cyprus> the images they thought it was from them
<Cyprus> I mean
<MagicMan> do we have to trade files?
<Hermes`> no forget that
<Cyprus> try to classify the images we think that came from us, and those we think that can from otherside
<Cyprus> yes
<Hermes`> we don't care about accuracy here
<Cyprus> OK
<Cyprus> just a suggestion
<Cyprus> just a suggestion
<Cyprus> that's OK
<Hermes`> this is just an exercise in developing your third eye
<Hermes`> we can try that however at another time
<Cyprus> so
<Cyprus> who wants to start?
<MagicMan> hmm hermes you've probably got a novel from the 7min
<MagicMan> :)
<Hermes`> na not as much as you think
<iWonder> Anyone here likes Tchaikovsky ?
<Hermes`> I did have music in my head for a time. It was a rock and roll song however
<MagicMan> great stuff from tchaikovsky
<MagicMan> no stuff in the meditation about him I think however
<Cyprus> rock n roll!????????
<Cyprus> that interesting
<Cyprus> the two music I played was Madonna - Frozen
<Cyprus> and (please don´t laugh)
<Cyprus> E-Type - Campione 2000
<iWonder> course not, LOL
<Hermes`> :)
<MagicMan> you 'transferred' your music again?
<Cyprus> hehehe :)
<fo0k> lol here also
<Cyprus> the things I saw were
<Cyprus> Madonna singing (very similar to the true Frozen song Video)
<Cyprus> this was images of mine certainly
<Cyprus> now
<Cyprus> I saw also
<Cyprus> the lady of the movie "the piano" playing piano
<MagicMan> again?
<Cyprus> I thought that this was caused koz Madonna dress made me remember her I was gona "control" the thought but my inner voice told me "remember, be receptive)
<Cyprus> I also remember seeing trees( weak thought)
<MagicMan> no matches here
<Cyprus> guys dancing/fighting campoera
<Hermes`> I had dancing
<Cyprus> campoera?
<Hermes`> it was bits and pieces of a show I saw at SeaWorld recently
<iWonder> I remember an insistent idea of tchaikosvsky ( I don´t like classical music by the way)
<Hermes`> there was Inca type music in the show
<Hermes`> you could of picked up on that,
<jsn> iwonder, what's wrong with classical music?
<Hermes`> it is in a round about way similar to classical
<iWonder> nothing jsn
<jsn> OK =)
<MagicMan> -room with oddly shaped table and fire place, - mountain with lake at the top, - some guy slicing a stone with a sword, grass and trees around, -shield upclose,...
<MagicMan> lemme think what else...
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<MagicMan> wb
<Hermes`> magic that is THURSTALL at Camelot
<MagicMan> what is?
<Hermes`> I put a call out to him in this mediation to try to reach someone
<Hermes`> THURSTALL is a knight at Camelot He is the key to access this place on the Etheric plane
<MagicMan> well I didn't see him I saw the sword slicing a stone
<Hermes`> ahaha
<Cyprus_> what did I miss
<Cyprus_> ?
<MagicMan> is that a 'aháh! I knew it kinda comment' or a 'ahaha that's funny' ? :)
<Hermes`> well a sword cutting a stone with no one attached to it is kind of funny.
<MagicMan> no no
<MagicMan> I didn't say no one was holding it
<iWonder> so ws excalibur, ahah
<MagicMan> I just didn't see the rest of the image
<Hermes`> ah I see
<MagicMan> I also saw a big door, castle like
<Hermes`> Hay you got to see Camelot
<MagicMan> I don't know these were all isolated imagery
<Hermes`> well it was only seven minutes and the pressure was on
<Hermes`> so it is normal to just come back with bits and pieces
<MagicMan> I think I saw more stuff but I don't remember now
<Cyprus_> me too
<MagicMan> the mountain with the lake on top was also peculiar
<MagicMan> and trees around the lake
<Hermes`> the Camelot country side is like that
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<Cyprus_> hum
<Hermes`> very hilly
<Hermes`> lots of springs and lakes
<Cyprus_> there was a image like that
<Cyprus_> but I think I block it....
<Cyprus_> :(
<Hermes`> well that is part of the process Cyprus. As we share these experiences you learn to open your mind more.
<Hermes`> I saw Sandlaphon, he has a staff and stands tall. I then saw a hectogram but this was some kind of coat of arms. Then I saw a cloud city or some kind of space station. Rock & roll music. Then the dancing from the show. And finally a racing car.
<MagicMan> hmm I had lots more images...I cant remember them, damn
<Hermes`> at the start I sent a note to Thurstall
<Hermes`> okay anyone remember anything else
<MagicMan> I'm trying to remember...
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<Hermes`> actually all of you did very well
<Hermes`> we have not done this in a while
<Hermes`> and as you know it does take several of these before you get going
<MagicMan> I don't think I did that good
<iWonder> a pyramid above my head, with sparkling colors, kinna fade
<Hermes`> magic you never do
<MagicMan> many thoughts mixed up
<MagicMan> with imagery
<Hermes`> that could be the energy from the group meditation Iwonder
<Hermes`> it does come down from above
<iWonder> in a pyramid ?
<Hermes`> well true, but that could be something for you.
<Hermes`> maybe it was a merkabah
<Cyprus_> pyramid!?
<Cyprus_> tks iWonder: you just made me remember a question
<Cyprus_> but I will wait until you guys are finish
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<MagicMan> argh tried...cant remember
<MagicMan> ah a dragon
<MagicMan> or gargoyle
<Hermes`> ah magic
<Hermes`> that is the creature
<Hermes`> it protects Camelot
<Cyprus_> the dragon or the gargoyle?
<MagicMan> green dragon?
<Hermes`> it originally was from a very dark place and we transformed it into a dragon like creature of goodness
<MagicMan> was it green?
<Hermes`> it is many colored
<Hermes`> I guess you could call it dark green
<Hermes`> originally it was black
<Hermes`> but as it transforms it got some color in it
<MagicMan> that color thing is not right...this one was clearly green
<Hermes`> well you can see things in your own way
<Hermes`> not everyone will see things the same
<Hermes`> there is a creature there that is nearly like a dragon
<Cyprus_> so, Camelot is a little subjective right?
<Hermes`> it does fly around and protects Camelot from the bad lot
<Hermes`> yes of course Camelot will always be subjective
<Hermes`> in the nonphysical and in these visions things will always be subjective...
<Hermes`> for example I heard rock and roll music and you were playing Madonna
<Hermes`> Magicman, I have not seen the dragon in a while, so it could be a bright green these days
<Hermes`> it is evolving as I said
<Hermes`> at the start it was a very black black
<Hermes`> actually I think we call it a jackpod
<Hermes`> or it has been described as that
<Hermes`> I call it a dragon
<MagicMan> ...I see I'm still trying to remember more
<Hermes`> that is quite a bit of remembering already for a 7 minute meditation.
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<naf_> hi
<MagicMan> hey naf
<naf_> Sorry I'm late, I just remembered that there's a workshop meeting.
<Hermes`> hi naf,
<naf_> So, what are you guys up to?
<iWonder> hi naf
<Hermes`> we just had our group meditation
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<naf_> are you done for tonight or is there something more to go?
<Hermes`> unless anyone remembers anything more about what they saw or experienced
<naf_> hermes, I'd like to know what other things you like to do than just OBE'ing and MPE'ing and WLE'ing, things like I could do as a beginner.
<MagicMan> I cant seem to remember anything else
<Hermes`> at the beginning I used to do tarot cards
<naf_> Hermes`, what did you do with them? forecast?
<Hermes`> I used them to help steer clear of not so good reality creating in my life
<naf_> like how?
<Hermes`> well if it said I was going to create conflict in a situation, I would change my attitude.
<naf_> hmm, what kind of things can you do with the tarot cards then?
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<Hermes`> I just used them for my own spiritual development
<Hermes`> I would see what was going to be created for the day
<Hermes`> then try to change the things that were not so good
<naf_> how do you actually use the cards?
<naf_> In real action.
<naf_> :)
<Hermes`> well for that you need to study the cards
<Hermes`> you ask a question, lay out the cards, and then read the answer
<naf_> do you have certain rules for it? Like one card means bad and one good etc.
<naf_> or you just look at the image and determine yourself if it's bad or good.
<Hermes`> all the cards have their own meaning
<Hermes`> there really is not good or bad cards
<Hermes`> just not so good combinations
<naf_> but you are not using them anymore right? as they could create your future?
<Hermes`> I occasionally use them, but for the most part I don't need them because I can now sense when a bad reality is being created.
<Hermes`> at the start my intuition was not so good..
<Hermes`> the tarot cards helped me to develop my intuition
<Hermes`> I never used the tarot cards to predetermine my reality
<Hermes`> just to show me where I was messing up
<naf_> What kind of questions did you ask then?
<Hermes`> well I would ask "show me the most probable thing I'm going to create today"
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<Hermes`> does this help?
<Hermes`> here is a good site for the tarot: http://www2.dgsys.com/~bunning/top.html
<naf_> well, I'd like to have some more information, do you have something about this on your pages.
<naf_> oh thanks.
<MagicMan> oh its the website I found :)
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<MagicMan> I have returned from playing chess with Cyprus
<Hermes`> I must depart for now
<Hermes`> things to do
<MagicMan> see you
<Hermes`> it was a good session, which will be posted later one
<Hermes`> on^
<Hermes`> bye
<MagicMan> hm OK bye
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Session Close: Tue Jul 25 19:39:14 2000