Session Start: Tue Oct 31 16:49:35 2000
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<Hermes`> howdy howdy howdy
<MagicMan`> howdy howdy howdy to you too
<Hermes`> how is everyone today?
<PureHeart> hi you!
<PureHeart> Hermes!
<Hermes`> sorry for the delay, it seems none of the ircnet severs would
let me on.
<Hermes`> I'm doing well
<MagicMan`> yes it has been a bit hectic on the servers today
<PureHeart> I have a question
<Hermes`> sure
<PureHeart> 10 meters white paper dragon!
<PureHeart> say say say it could be AA Raphael...?
<PureHeart> cuy I was thinking..
<PureHeart> all fits so it is
<Hermes`> well how the archangels chose to appear is subjective, so
it could very well be him
<Hermes`> I always see Raphael with wings
<PureHeart> yes that's why I thought. dragon has wings
<Hermes`> yea it is a good clue
<Hermes`> so when did you see this?
<PureHeart> ahh! was so unexplainable wonderful..
<PureHeart> on Sunday, 5am
<Hermes`> nice
<PureHeart> all felt like Tiphareth -- scholarly, busy, dedicated
<PureHeart> doing healing there too
<PureHeart> seems I finally got there!
<PureHeart> was always trying to
<PureHeart> a wonderful place!
<Hermes`> Sunday is his day too [astrological wise]
<Hermes`> so that would make it easier for you
<sor_-> oh hi hermes
<sor_-> hi magic
<Hermes`> I like Tiphareth, the energy is light and airy.
<MagicMan`> sleeping on the keyboard? shame on you :)
<sor_-> PureHeart_:_)
<sor_-> eh :)
<sor_-> I'm going to exit soon, can I ask a fast question?
<Hermes`> sure
<sor_-> are there physical gateway that lead to nonphysical world?
<Hermes`> well there are rumors of these kinds of things
<Hermes`> but I have never found one, nor have any of my teachers confirmed
it
<PureHeart> (hehe Soren)
<sor_-> I see..:)
<Hermes`> of course you would have to leave your physical body behind
if there was such a door.
<Hermes`> unless you were an ascended master and knew how to transform
your molecular structure
<sor_-> oki.. another fast question
<sor_-> any of you know about Rudolf Steiner?
<Hermes`> no
<sor_-> http://www.elib.com/
<sor_-> I knew about him from a song of tangerine dream
<sor_-> he speaks about a lot of things, about Atlantis, Lemurians,
Arians etc
<sor_-> its an interesting reading
<sor_-> yap
<sor_-> many things he wrote are the same you speak about(at least from
Atlantis reading)
<Hermes`> I'll have to give him a read later
<Hermes`> is he the one that talks about these doorways
<sor_-> no, I read the doorways from a comic book and I wondered:)
<Hermes`> well it is said that Shambala has such a doorway
<sor_-> Shambala?
<Hermes`> Shambala is where the Spiritual government for planet earth
is.
<Hermes`> it exists on the Etheric plane
<sor_-> something like agarthi?
<sor_-> ah oki
<Hermes`> the entrance is supposed to be in the far east someplace
<Hermes`> however these are just stories
<Hermes`> no one really has ever confirmed such a doorway.
<sor_-> but every story has a bit of truth:)
<Hermes`> yes
<sor_-> going
<sor_-> good chat guys,hope to readan interesting log
<Hermes`> okay soren good to chat with you
<Hermes`> So PureHeart, what did you learn from your experience with
Raphael?
* PureHeart sssssssssssssssmiles
<PureHeart> oh I'll write you about it
<sor_-> bye:)
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<Hermes`> no problem PureHeart
<PureHeart> just felt so more real then here
<Hermes`> yes it does doesn't it?
<Hermes`> Makes you wonder if we are sleeping when we are physical
<PureHeart> sure does
<PureHeart> exactly how it feels!
<PureHeart> so what to do about that..
<Hermes`> it takes me about 40 minutes or so to get re-centered in the
body after a night of nonphysical work or travel.
<Hermes`> for that time the physical world feels so unreal
<Hermes`> needless to say, I'm not much of a morning person :)
<PureHeart> so Strange!
<FORTYoz> hi :)
<MagicMan`> well...can I ask if you have discovered anything new 'on
me', hermes?
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<MagicMan`> hi gargowl
<GargowL> Merry Meet
<Hermes`> I stepped away
<Hermes`> hello gargowl
<Hermes`> magicman, I have not found anything out on you. No visits
this week
<MagicMan`> I'm asking cuz periodically I get this illness that takes
from 3 days to a week to pass that affects my throat/nose area and this always
starts after a night that I did not sleep properly or had strange dreams
<MagicMan`> I think I mentioned this before
<Hermes`> well
<MagicMan`> any ideas?
<Hermes`> if you are actively engaged in raising your consciousness,
then this kind of thing will happen as your energy goes up.
<Hermes`> the body purges itself of built up toxins so that you can
take on greater energy stores
<MagicMan`> I get this every few months
<Hermes`> yes generally your energy will go up about once every 3 or
4 months.
<MagicMan`> I' getting this now actually
<MagicMan`> and I got it sometime in the end of august
<GargowL> Hermes: remember that "breathing" stuff I had? I
can see that "breathing" now... Instead of just feeling, now I also
see the objects slowly expand and contract
<Hermes`> gargowl, that is the aura you can see right?
<GargowL> no, I see the objects expand and contract like they were breathing
<Hermes`> and when it is it that you see this gargowl
<Hermes`> what I mean gargowly, do you have to be in some altered form
of consciousness or does this enhanced site just happen naturally?
<GargowL> I was working on the computer (I had stopped and I was thinking
of a solution for a problem) and I started seeing the screen "breathing",
then I looked at the speakers and they were also "breathing"
<GargowL> well, I was concentrating... I often feel the breathing when
I concentrate
<Hermes`> everything does breathe, as you have seen Gargowl. Breathing
is a natural process of everything in the universe.
<Hermes`> and what you are seeing is the energy going in and out of
objects
<Hermes`> in that breath like fashion.
<Hermes`> Your brow chakra must be real sensitive these days and well
tuned.
<FORTYoz> I did some downloading while I slept
* FORTYoz slept 13 hours
<FORTYoz> :(
<Hermes`> that is a nice sleep
<FORTYoz> long:))
<MagicMan`> that's a little too much
<Hermes`> well if you do any regular nonphysical work, you need to get
at least 10 hours sleep
<MagicMan`> it is not good for your heart to sleep that much
<PureHeart> well it's is good to sleep a lot, right?
<FORTYoz> I try for 10
<FORTYoz> I like sleeping
<FORTYoz> body heals a lot in sleep
<Hermes`> I have noticed that the healing part of my sleep anyway comes
at the last 2 hours.
<Hermes`> so if I cut the sleep short, I miss the healings
<Hermes`> by the way pureheart you were helping me Friday evening with
moving more of those nonphysical refugees.
<Hermes`> we moved them through the element fire that night
<PureHeart> really!
<Hermes`> yea, you did a good job
<MagicMan`> "nonphysical refugees"?!
<Hermes`> yes some kind of nonphysical project that was started a few
weeks ago
<Hermes`> every 5 or 6 days we move these refugees or trapped souls
from another element to the next
<Hermes`> the first one was through earth, in that one we were in tunnels
<MagicMan`> lots of question marks
<Hermes`> the second one was water, there were lots of floods in that
one.
<Hermes`> third was air, big tornados in that one
<Hermes`> and Friday was fire, where we moved these souls up to the
abyss with electrical energy currents
<MagicMan`> so you've done all of them where to now?
<Hermes`> the energy of spirit
<Hermes`> and that should be tonight
<Hermes`> the prep work I did last night
<Hermes`> of course having Halloween fall on this night is not a coincidence
I'm sure
<PureHeart> heh
<PureHeart> so what is this energy of spirit exactly?
<MagicMan`> I guess that would be the equivalent to the Greek's ether
<Hermes`> energy of spirit is being without form
<MagicMan`> since all the others are of Greek discovery
<Hermes`> for these trapped souls it is the meeting with their divine
spark.
<Hermes`> the pure energy of God that frees them forever
<Hermes`> I'm not sure how this may manifest
<Hermes`> I was surprise actually to see the element of fire take on
electrical energy, but upon thinking about it, the magical element of fire
is more like electricity than of fire.
<PureHeart> these are still living people?
<Hermes`> I don't know pureheart, it is a good question I do not have
an answer for
<FORTYoz> Hermes`: up for a meditation today?
<Hermes`> We'll do the meditation on Thursday.
<MagicMan`> the times of by request are long by I guess
<FORTYoz> Hmm k, no one is @ work today
<MagicMan`> a meditation session would be great though...maybe it would
help me with my throat/nose problems
<Hermes`> well it depends if there are any other questions
<Hermes`> if not we can move to a meditation
<FORTYoz> Wish I had some questions but my OBE stuff hasn't advanced
much recently, except for the OBE I had last week (which was my first intentional
(non spontaneous) one)
<MagicMan`> huh...I don't think I have any right now
<PureHeart> me neither
<Hermes`> okay then, we can do a meditation
<MagicMan`> I wonder if I can breath well enough
<Hermes`> well if you hold your breath long enough you will really have
a trance going.
<FORTYoz> haha
<FORTYoz> Hermes`: let me know when you are starting :)
<Hermes`> are you joining in pureheart?
<PureHeart> well. that's needless to ask, cause I always join it.
<Hermes`> okay I'm ready to start
<FORTYoz> me too
<MagicMan`> wait a couple of minutes
<Hermes`> okay you have 2
<Hermes`> 1:59
<MagicMan`> 1min to have to clear my nose a bit
<FORTYoz> :d
<MagicMan`> guess you struck a humor vain today hermes
<Hermes`> yea, I do surprise myself sometimes
<GargowL> I won't be joining you, I'm kinda busy
<Hermes`> :(
<FORTYoz> MagicMan`: ready to start?
<MagicMan`> ok
<Hermes`> great
<Hermes`> let's go then
<PureHeart> 15 min?
<Hermes`> yea
<Hermes`> 15
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<MagicMan`> argh
<MagicMan`> give me light give me power
<Hermes`> you have returned
<Hermes`> you have the light and the power
<MagicMan`> this was more like an OBE attempt than a meditation
<MagicMan`> felt the energy and thought I'd give it a try
<Hermes`> what happened?
<PureHeart> really! kinda the same here Magic
<MagicMan`> well...I struggled to move my arms to get out
<MagicMan`> finally when I knew time was up opened my eyes then found
I was a bit paralyzed yeks
<MagicMan`> had to push a little to move
<MagicMan`> that's about it for the "OBE attempt"
<MagicMan`> I got a few images as well
<MagicMan`> but how about you guys?
<PureHeart> well I *know* I would have made it (get OBE) if I stayed
there a bit longer
<MagicMan`> maybe me 2
<PureHeart> maybe we should do this group OBE attempt sometime again
<Hermes`> the energy was quite high tonight
<Hermes`> so no doubt you guys may have been able to travel with this
one
<MagicMan`> for the images I got sunshine images...an eagle symbol (like
the pilots have), also went for a stole in a old fashioned car about 1940's
model, then went to out of the earth for a little view on the solar system,
then I saw shadowy figures which I think were from you guys in the room
<MagicMan`> started saying 'give me light give me power' half way through
don't know why ...was about that time I entered trance
<PureHeart> :) I was flying over the sea in the white sky, completely
white and then too went to space, "rested" on a few planets
<Hermes`> wow nice pureheart, you got to do things
<MagicMan`> yea pure! nice work!
<PureHeart> there were a few others flying on that white sky too
<PureHeart> and you Hermes?
<MagicMan`> I saw also mountains covered with snow and a sunrise behind
them
<Hermes`> for a long time all I got was I was standing on top of a high
icy mountain...
<Hermes`> I was waiting for you guys to come out of a hole in the ground
that went to a cave
<Hermes`> after that I decided to fly into the sky
<MagicMan`> nice....I got the impression we were lined up in front of
the mountains checking out the view
<Hermes`> and then went into space
<Hermes`> then I returned to the icy mountain top and waited for it
<FORTYoz> I saw my headache
<FORTYoz> :(
<FORTYoz> I'm gonna OBE attempt when I get home
<Hermes`> well fortyoz maybe you needed the energy
<MagicMan`> gonna send this image over hermes...see if you can find
a likeness
<FORTYoz> maybe
<Hermes`> what did your headache look like?
<FORTYoz> white splotches
<FORTYoz> :P
[magicman sends hermes picture]
<Hermes`> that picture looks like the icy mountain top I was on
<MagicMan`> what do you think, hermes?
<Hermes`> at least it was the view I saw
<MagicMan`> ah
<MagicMan`> that was where I was at as well
<Hermes`> great
<Hermes`> then you guys were there, but I just did not see you.
<MagicMan`> I remember having the idea I was lined up in front of them
with you guys
<MagicMan`> I was also in space
<MagicMan`> only in our solar system though
<PureHeart> well I also know in the beginning I was running over some
grass, and then climbing some stairs and then flying
<Hermes`> I did get a grassy spot at the end of the meditation
<Hermes`> perhaps I picked up on that
<MagicMan`> maybe I did as well I have a faint idea of that
<MagicMan`> I also saw a shadowy face of a woman I think
<MagicMan`> and general movement
<PureHeart> so any idea what all this meant?
<MagicMan`> other than radiohead is spot on ? :)
<PureHeart> don't remember that mountain, or any mountain
<Hermes`> well it means we did a good job of all hooking up to each
other
<Hermes`> for the most part right now this is teaching all of you how
to do this travel meditation stuff
<Hermes`> eventually you will start to go places and do things on your
own
<MagicMan`> Í have no idea how to get to the level you are at
hermes
<Hermes`> the grassy place is a place where you can meet Sandalphon...
<Hermes`> if you walk a bit over the grass you will come to a castle
<Hermes`> and then you go inside and meet with Sandalphon.
<Hermes`> magicman you don't have to know how to get where I am, you
will just get there on your own
<Hermes`> does that make sense?
<PureHeart> really!! you saying I was a step away from HIM...... aww..
<MagicMan`> I just you has a comparison ...to say that I have no idea
how to get to that level of travel meditation with you its an OBE actually
<MagicMan`> wow there he's not a god or anything :)
<MagicMan`> ok maybe a "god" but you know what I mean
<PureHeart> Sandalphon?
<MagicMan`> yea
<PureHeart> ahh HE taught me lesson of my life for sure.
<MagicMan`> ?
<PureHeart> eh. will mail you that one too
<Hermes`> yea pureheart you were close to meeting Sandalphon
<PureHeart> what, you kinda asked him just now or something? heh
<Hermes`> no, this is what happens, from experience
<Hermes`> many students go through it like this
<PureHeart> ahh great..
<PureHeart> I really started working on this real intensively and dedicated.
<MagicMan`> yes I remember the pharaoh :)
<Hermes`> what happens is Sandalphon is keyed into my energy pattern
and when we connect like this in meditation it enables certain realities or
programs to be played out.
<Hermes`> these starter programs or realities get you hooked into the
system so you can travel freely on your own
<Hermes`> the grassy place is one of those programs.
<Hermes`> another one is the beach with the water and waves
<PureHeart> I was at the beach too!
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<PureHeart> under a palm
<Pe-> hoho!
<MagicMan`> for me Sandalphon is the pharaoh and a mix of Egyptian and
Greek features
<Hermes`> Yes Sandalphon does like that Egyptian image
<MagicMan`> hi pe!
<Hermes`> see Pure you were there
<Hermes`> now you just have to choose which one to start by
<PureHeart> the beach definitely :)
<Hermes`> with the beach one, you usually meet Sandalphon on the beach
someplace
<Hermes`> and he will give you something.
<Hermes`> if he is not on the beach then you have to walk away from
the water to perhaps a castle or a hut
<Hermes`> of course your individual adventures may differ.
<Hermes`> these are just to get you started and into the Tree of life
system
<FORTYoz> hm
<Pe-> Hm, today was the meditation?
<Hermes`> we had an extra session tonight
<Hermes`> you will get there too Fortyoz, it does take several sessions
before you start to get things
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<FORTYoz> good, too bad the timing... I'm always at work
<Hermes`> well you can acquire the connection you need this way and
then on your own do the travel meditation
<Hermes`> in fact once all of you make contact with Sandalphon you should
be doing one of these a week on your own.
<FORTYoz> hmm k
<Pe-> Hm, have to go to sleep
<Pe-> see you soon
<Hermes`> okay pee
<Hermes`> pe
<Hermes`> I mean
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<Hermes`> okay time to go myself, as it is quiet
<Hermes`> catch everyone later. great job
<MagicMan`> guess all is settling down
<PureHeart> see you..
<Hermes`> bye
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Session Close: Tue Oct 31 19:37:32 2000